Fox News host Tucker Carlson took former U.S. Rep. Trey Gowdy to task Monday night for allowing the Trump-Russia collusion hoax to “metastasize” while Republicans were in control of congress two years after President Trump took office.
The allegation from Carlson came after Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) called out Gowdy, a former Republican lawmaker from South Carolina and now a Fox News contributor.
Gaetz, in a segment during an interview on Sean Hannity’s Fox News program, said:
[House Intelligence Community Ranking Member] Devin Nunes [R-Calif.] is a patriot. And I’m glad you went through Trey Gowdy’s exquisite questions in 2017 to these corrupt officials. I guess my questions, Sean, would be why was it then in late May in 2018 that Trey Gowdy went on Martha MacCallum’s show and said the FBI did exactly as all of our fellow Americans would have wanted them to do and that it had nothing to do with Donald Trump.
Both of those things have now been proven to be untrue and it seems that Gowdy’s brilliant lawyering back in 2017 that we’re only able to see now proves those statements untrue. The number one question I get asked from Americans is why no one has gone to jail and is held accountable. Unfortunately, when Nunes and Meadows and Jordan and I wanted subpoena power it was [then-House Speaker] Paul Ryan and Trey Gowdy that wouldn’t give us that subpoena power. Democrats sent out hundreds of subpoenas. When we had control and could have run this to the ground in 2017 but we didn’t send out a single subpoena. Not one. And that’s a failure of our Republican leadership.
On his program Monday, Carlson asked Gowdy about that.
“This was driven by the Obama Administration but it was allowed to metastasize because the Republican Congress did not stop it. Why do you think that is?” Tucker asked Gowdy.
Gowdy started out by noting that Carlson referenced Susan Rice, Obama’s national security adviser. He added that in order “to fully understand” what the former president’s role really was in the Russiagate hoax, “you need to read” the rest of an email Rice wrote to herself to ‘document’ an early January 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which the FBI’s investigation into the Trump campaign was discussed.
“But you can’t because it hasn’t been declassified,” Gowdy said.
In terms of Russia, Gowdy praised Nunes, then head of the House Intelligence Committee, “for doing a phenomenal job” at attempting to unravel the scandal.
“There were four pillars” that Nunes wanted the committee to examine, Gowdy said: “We’re gonna find out what Russia did; with whom, if anyone, they did it; how to make sure they don’t do it again in 2020; and then the issue of unmasking(s) [of Trump officials] and leaks [to the media].
“It’s just that nobody gave a damn about three of” the four things, Gowdy continued. “The only thing they cared about was the ‘with whom, if anyone,’” he said, adding that he is defensive of Nunes because he “wrapped up his investigation” in the scandal “a lot faster than Bob Mueller, and with a lot less help from anyone.”
Carlson agreed with that assessment, but added that he believes the real problem — FBI abuses — was never adequately addressed by Gowdy or anyone in the Republican leadership.
Carlson then showed Gowdy a clip of him saying on Fox News in 2018 that President Trump was not the focus of the FBI’s probe, when he clearly was.
Gowdy admitted that he was wrong but only because he was believing FBI and DoJ officials who were briefing Congress (and they, obviously, were not being truthful).
“My mistake was relying on the word of the FBI and the DoJ and not insisting on the documents” he would later see proving that Trump was the target and indicating that Peter Strzok, among others, set it all up.
At that point, Carlson and Gowdy go back and forth over the claim that Russia ‘hacked the DNC’ when in fact, there’s been no evidence produced proving that and the head of the cybersecurity company that examined the DNC’s servers, Crowdstrike, admitted under oath his firm wasn’t certain.