Retired U.S. Army Col. Douglas Macgregor did not pull any punches in an interview with Fox News’ Tucker Carlson on Monday as he dismissed the Pentagon’s increasing shift to ‘woke’ ‘diversity’ policies rather than focusing more on policies that ensure the nation’s fighting forces are the most prepared they can be to defend the country.

As he opened the segment, Carlson noted that former acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller last fall signed off on 15 recommendations made by an “inclusion” panel that included one to “remove aptitude test barriers that adversely impact diversity.”

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Carlson then noted that the Army is considering changes to its recently adopted gender-neutral combat fitness test because too many female soldiers are failing it.


(Source: Fox News)

Asked to respond, Mcgregor made it clear the Pentagon is focusing on all the wrong things because despite fighting a pair of wars for nearly 20 years, U.S. troops have not faced anything like a great power military threat.

“I think the last twenty years have had a profound, negative impact on the American military, particularly combat forces that have had to go through these long occupations, long deployments, without clear missions and obtainable objectives,” Macgregor began.

“We have also fought a very weak enemy, an enemy without air forces, without air defenses, without armies, and people reached erroneous conclusions about the nature of combat under those circumstances. I think to some extent that is what is happening now, so that there is a readiness to accommodate PC demands from policymakers who, frankly, have a cocktail-level of familiarity with real war, when otherwise, senior officers would put up much more serious resistance,” said Macgregor.

“I think these policies are detrimental in most cases and probably divisive,” he continued.

Carlson remarked that U.S. adversaries always pay close attention to the policy decisions made by military leaders, including the most recent ‘woke’ policies.

“None of our potential opponents — whether they are in the Middle East, Northeast Asia, Eastern Europe, it doesn’t make any difference — none of them would even think of adopting any of these positions and policies under any circumstances,” Macgregor said.

The retired Army colonel went on to make an eye-opening observation about America’s potential enemies like China and Russia.

“They are training for the Super Bowl. I think that is important for us to understand. We have been fighting, or playing, against pickup teams. We are not training, organizing, [a] fighting power to deal with the Super Bowl. They are. I think we are in for a real surprise. Many of the assumptions we are making about what will or won’t work, they will be destroyed,” he said.

Macgregor then dropped a couple of bombs regarding what he sees as huge — and potentially catastrophic — disparities between the way U.S. and adversarial forces are preparing for future conflict.

“They are training for the Super Bowl. I think that is important for us to understand. We have been fighting, or playing, against pickup teams. We are not training, organizing, [a] fighting power to deal with the Super Bowl. They are,” he said.

“I think we are in for a real surprise. Many of the assumptions we are making about what will or won’t work, they will be destroyed,” he noted further, adding that he would recommend the U.S. spend more time talking to China.

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“Until you fight a really capable enemy, you can make many assumptions about the force that are erroneous. I think that is where we are,” he told Carlson.

“We assume certain things will work because they worked in Iraq or Afghanistan. They have no chance of working at all against the Chinese, the Russians, the Turks, any number of people. We need to come to terms with that and back away from some of the policies that I don’t think have been carefully considered in that context,” he said.

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